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State of the Nation

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Please Stay a Little Bit Longer

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The dismal reality just keeps rolling through my mind at this late hour robbing me of rest. Our troops have to stay. Like water spiraling down the drain and into a sewer, that's where every Republican canard and conservative dodge leads. Over 4000 American KIA, thousands more maimed for life, half a trillion dollars and counting, no end in sight. But according to the mundane idiots and clever liars that got us into this disaster we are making dramatic progress, like this:

NYT -- For a brief moment, Washington politics intruded into a world in which automatic weapons fire, tank fire and explosives rock the streets. But before General Petraeus could complete his prepared statement, the power shut down again.

Look, there are only three future possibilities, and staying in Iraq is the only answer the GOP has for any of the three. Forget crayons, this flow chart could be drawn with a can of spray paint on a legal pad: 1) Violence up, our soldiers have to stay. 2) No change, Petraeus explains why our troops have to stay. And 3) if someday the violence falls to whatever arbitrary magic number is deemed acceptable, can our troops finally come home? TPM dug up this gem from the New Yorker which sums up the absurdity of John McCain's answer to that one perfectly:

McCain wants to stay in Iraq until no more Americans are getting killed, no matter how long it takes and how many Americans get killed achieving that goal - that is, the goal of not getting any more Americans killed. And once that goal is achieved, we'll stay.

For years we've been told that our troops can't leave until Iraq is stable and secure, conveniently vague conditions that Crocker and Petraeus were unable to define today despite repeated opportunties to do so. But McCain laid even that lie to rest: we're going to stay in Iraq no matter what for a hundred years, a thousand years, or ten-thousand years. Or until the Republicans and their DINO lackeys are kicked out of DC.  

DarkSyde Iraq Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:01:38 GMT

Open Thread for Night Owls & Early Birds

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CongressDaily (subscription only) reports:

Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee Chairman Charles Schumer of New York said Tuesday that public polling shows his party's candidates ahead in five of the 17 Republican-held seats he is watching this year, one in which the Democrat is running even and two in which the Democrats are close behind.

In a briefing for reporters, Schumer said Democrats are leading in Senate races in Virginia, New Hampshire, Colorado, New Mexico and Alaska. He listed Oregon, Maine and Minnesota as "within reach," noting that Democrat Al Franken is polling evenly with Republican Sen. Norm Coleman in Minnesota.

All told, Schumer optimistically proclaimed Democrats were competitive in 17 of 23 elections for seats now held by Republicans.

There is a mysterious cycle in human events. To some generations much is given. Of other generations much is expected. This generation of Americans has a rendezvous with destiny.
            -- Franklin D. Roosevelt in his acceptance speech at the 1936 Democratic Convention in Philadelphia, the last year the Democrats required a two-thirds majority of delegates to choose a nominee.

The Overnight News Digest has been posted.

Meteor Blades Open Thread for Night Owls & Early Birds Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:01:22 GMT

Open Thread and Diary Rescue

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Tonight's Rescue Rangers are Louisiana1976, jlms qkw, jennyjem, dadanation, srkp23, joyful, with YatPundit bringing up the rear of the second line as editor.

Please enjoy these diaries as they are examples of the fine writing found every day here on Daily Kos.

brillig has Top Comments - Quotations Edition

Please feel free to join Diary Rescue by promoting your own selections in this Open Thread.

Diary Rescue open thread diary rescue Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:13:39 GMT

McCain: Don't choose to lose in Iraq

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This morning's Senate Armed Services Committee hearings on Iraq showed pretty decisively that the Bush administration's policies are made of straw. Their chief advocate in the Senate, John McCain, delivered an uninspired and somewhat risible defense of them. Here is the conclusion of John McCain's prepared remarks (PDF):

Congress must not choose to lose in Iraq. We should choose, instead, to succeed.

That's a measure of the depth of his thinking about the morass McCain helped the nation to get into. For him, it's simply a question of deciding to succeed. In McCain's world, others such as the Iraqis have no influence in the matter - unless we mistakenly choose to let them determine their own fate.

Then there's the problem that for McCain and other Republican apologists for the Bush policy, 'winning' is never clearly, consistently, and realistically defined. Here is McCain this morning trying to move the goalposts once again (emphasis mine):

Since the middle of last year, sectarian and ethnic violence, civilian deaths, and deaths of coalition forces have all fallen dramatically. This improved security environment has led to a new opportunity, one in which average Iraqis can, in the future, approach a more normal political and economic life. Reconciliation has moved forward, and over the weekend Sunni, Shia and Kurdish leaders backed the Prime Minister in a statement supporting his operation in Basra and urging the disbandment of militias...today, it is possible to talk with real hope and optimism about the future of Iraq and the outcome of our efforts there.

This paragraph sums up so much of the new Republican spin. First, it has always been possible to talk optimistically about Iraq; that is all that Bush and his GOP enablers have done since 2003. If they're ever skeptical about "progress" in Iraq, we only hear about it long after the fact - when, they say, optimism is again in order. Hence, McCain wants us to forget about the nasty failure in Basra less than two weeks ago. Instead, we're supposed to build our dreams upon a vague statement of support for Maliki this past weekend by several Sunni and Kurd leaders who are hostile to Moqtada al-Sadr.

Second, we have the lies. Iraqis have made virtually no progress on reconciliation in the last 15 months. It's the most basic fact of all, for Bush made reconcilation and the suppression of ethnic cleansing and violence in Baghdad the central goals of his "surge". Ethnic cleansing was essentially completed during the "surge", violence is sharply up again, and reconciliation is nowhere to be seen. McCain knows that of course, which is why he later doubles down on the lie: "The Iraqis must continue the reconciliation that has helped dampen violence over recent months." The Sunni "concerned citizens" are unreconciled with Maliki's government, so this is lavishly dishonest.

Third, we have goal posts careening all over the field. McCain is measuring "progress" over a span of 9 months, rather than 15. And "progress" consists merely in getting to the point where there's an opportunity at some unspecified stage in the future to approach a more (how much more?) normal life. Even though the original benchmarks of success were vague, McCain's latest version is beyond ridiculous.

His questioning of David Petraeus and Ryan Crocker was somewhat perfunctory and added little insight. It looked calculated to give the impression that McCain was asking tough and skeptical questions, though he accepted vague responses without demur. As noted already by Devilstower, McCain also appeared to be confused yet again about whether Al Qaeda is a Sunni or Shiite group.

After that incident, Mr. McCain told NBC News that “to think that I would have some lack of knowledge about Sunni and Shia after my eighth visit and my deep involvement in this issue is a bit ludicrous.”

 title=And predictably, McCain sought to help Petreaus to blame continuing violence in Iraq upon Iran. However he ran short of time and his aspersions upon "the Iranian threat" merely trailed off hastily.

And then having finished with his performance, as Sen. Bayh later noted, John McCain got up and left the hearing (live-blogged here). So McCain wasn't around to hear David Petraeus announce that he'd pushed the champagne bottle to the back of his fridge in Iraq. Probably the prudent thing to do - though you have to wonder about the wisdom of bringing champagne there in the first place.

smintheus John McCain David Petraeus Ryan Crocker Iraq Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:21:48 GMT

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